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Jack Sweeney and Nick Sweeney
- Built Coherence as two brothers and co-founders.
- Launched the app eight months before the interview.
- Combined Jack’s content and no-code background with Nick’s breathwork and athletic background.
- Jack grew a university YouTube channel to about 20,000 subscribers before pursuing entrepreneurship.
- Jack built simple no-code web apps, with the first few apps flopping before he improved through iteration.
- Nick was a Division 1 cross-country skier whose career was threatened by injury.
- Nick said breathwork helped him walk again within three months and return to full-time training six months later.
- Described building with his brother as a blessing because they could support each other when one person was down.
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Coherence
- Helps people regulate their nervous system through breathwork.
- Offers breathing techniques for relaxation, focus, energy, stress relief, and sleep.
- Uses a minimal breathing session screen with timer and volume controls.
- Plays sounds to guide inhales and exhales.
- Includes gamification through a streak counter.
- Uses a subscription model.
- Charges $40 per year with a three-day free trial on the yearly plan.
- Charges $10 per month on the monthly plan.
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Metrics and Financials
- Reached over 15,000 downloads.
- Generated around $85,000 in revenue.
- Averaged around $11,000 per month since launch.
- Hit a biggest month of $22,000 in revenue.
- Surpassed 2,000 users.
- Spends about $5,000 to $6,000 per month to operate.
- Spends about $2,500 on video editors.
- Spends about $1,000 to $2,000 on influencers and partnerships.
- Spends about $800 on a ghostwriter for threads.
- Spends about $500 on a virtual assistant.
- Spends about $300 on coding agents.
- Spends about $100 on RevenueCat and about $100 on other tools.
- Operates at about 50% margin.
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Content-First Strategy
- Started with content before building the app.
- Made content about topics they genuinely cared about.
- Jack wrote threads on spiritual and esoteric topics.
- Nick made content focused more on breathwork.
- Used X as an idea battleground to see which ideas resonated.
- Turned winning X posts into Instagram and TikTok short-form scripts.
- Moved validated ideas upstream into longer YouTube videos.
- Reverse engineered viral content into the app concept.
- Got the original app idea after a tweet about vortex breath went viral.
- Launched a July content piece that reached around 8 million views across platforms.
- Nick thought the video would flop and refilmed it several times.
- The video reached a million views the next day.
- He framed it in a polarizing way around hidden health information.
- He later turned that framing into a series.
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Idea Validation Playbook
- Pick a painful niche.
- Create content around a problem people already feel.
- Present yourself as a potential solution through repeated content.
- Batch ideas weekly.
- Generate content ideas regularly around the painful problem.
- Film in bulk.
- Produce 30 to 60 videos at a time.
- Build a content bank with roughly two months of videos.
- Amplify winners.
- Identify which posts work.
- Put Spark or Meta ad spend behind winning content when there is something to sell.
- Outmarket everyone.
- Publish as many reels as possible.
- Hire clippers when resources allow.
- Use software leverage after validating demand.
- Pick a painful niche.
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Tech Stack and Tools
- Built the app with React Native Expo.
- Used Supabase for the database and backend.
- Used cloud code and Codex as coding agents.
- Used Mixpanel for analytics.
- Used RevenueCat for subscriptions.
- Built the marketing site with Vercel and Next.js.
- Used Figma for design.
- Used Rot for 3D design.
- Used ManyChat for Instagram DMs.
- Jack said he did not write a single line of code in the codebase.
- Finished the MVP in February 2025 and launched.
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Lessons and Advice
- Validate with content before building.
- Stop coding first and start creating if you need to know what the market wants.
- Find a technical co-founder if you are non-technical.
- Use software when you want leverage after proving demand.
- Keep meditating because they see it as a high-leverage activity.
- Breathe more and avoid sitting all day.
- Take movement breaks because long coding sessions can hurt the body.
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Starter Story • • 12 min • #112
Jack and Nick are two brothers who turned their obsession with breathwork into a niche mobile app. But here's what they did different: they validated their idea with content before writing a single line of code.