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Eyal And Yali
- Built Prop GPT, a mobile app that grew to $30,000 per month.
- Launched the app about a year before the interview.
- Got stuck around $1,000 to $2,000 MRR with the first version.
- Spent 4 months rebuilding the product from scratch.
- Relaunched and grew quickly after improving the product.
- Showed that distribution alone did not matter when the product experience was weak.
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Prop GPT
- Provides sports betting analytics through a machine learning algorithm.
- Gives users access to models for analyzing their own picks.
- Scans bets every day and shows pre-analyzed betting opportunities.
- Rebuilt the product after realizing users wanted the app to give them the right answers instead of making them input bets manually.
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Metrics And Financials
- Makes about $30,000 per month.
- Has more than 40,000 downloads.
- Has more than 3,000 paying customers.
- Converts 48% of downloads into trials.
- Earns around $3.30 for every user who downloads the app.
- Hit a peak of $40,000 MRR about 2 and a half months after relaunching.
- Reached 2,000 downloads in a single day.
- Raised ARR from about $8,000 to $38,000 in about 3 days after one influencer video reached 600,000 views.
- Runs at roughly 50% margins.
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Original Build And Problem
- Spent about 5 months building the first version of Prop GPT.
- Launched in the middle of the NFL season.
- Averaged about 20 downloads per day early on.
- Converted about 5 to 10 users per day from downloads to free trials.
- Could not push beyond $1,000 to $2,000 MRR despite having strong influencer-driven distribution.
- Saw that many people started trials but almost nobody stayed after the trial ended.
- Realized the app’s conversion problem meant users liked the idea but did not get the experience they expected.
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Rebuild And Relaunch
- Shut down all marketing for 4 months.
- Focused only on engineering and design work during the rebuild.
- Relaunched the new version on April 15 at about $1,700 MRR and around $15 per day.
- Went all in on marketing again during the NBA playoffs the next month.
- Saw paid conversion rise above 50% after the rebuild.
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Product Playbook
- Stay extremely humble about the product.
- Talk to users and use analytics platforms like PostHog to identify patterns that do not match the app design.
- Understand exactly who the app is for and what their pain points are.
- Listen to the data instead of assuming the product works.
- Watch key conversion points, such as trial conversion and trial-to-paid conversion.
- Obsess over analytics to see where users fall off during onboarding.
- Track feature clicks to identify the app’s strongest value proposition.
- Use what customers actually do inside the app to improve product and marketing.
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Growth Strategy
- Started with influencer marketing because Eyal had worked with successful app founders before.
- Spent a few thousand dollars on influencer marketing to test how many downloads the app could get.
- Uses influencer marketing as a scaling channel once the product works.
- Values creators because their followers engage deeply and convert faster when they see someone they admire using the product.
- Sees organic social as powerful because one viral video can change the business.
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Tech Stack And Costs
- Built the app in a React Native repo.
- Uses TypeScript and Python for machine learning algorithms.
- Uses automated fetching for sports data.
- Stores a large database on Neon.
- Uses RevenueCat for revenue dashboards.
- Uses Superwall for paywalls.
- Pays about $0.20 per conversion to Superwall.
- Pays about 1% to RevenueCat.
- Pays about $100 per month for data APIs with real-time sports data.
- Pays about $10 per month for Neon database bandwidth.
- Pays about $20 per month for LLM costs.
- Spends about $10,000 per month on marketing.
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Lessons And Advice
- Recommends having a co-founder who can provide support when things get hard.
- Advises entrepreneurs to be honest and scientific about whether their product has enough demand.
- Says proving the opportunity to yourself makes it much easier to prove it to investors and future team members.
SaaS •Entrepreneurship
How We Built It: $30K/month Mobile App
Starter Story • • 10 min • #111
Eyal and Yahli Hazan built an app that was stuck at $2K MRR for months. The problem? Their app simply wasn't good enough... So they spent 4 months rebuilding it and after relaunching, they hit over $10K MRR in one week. This video breaks down why distribution isn't everything and how to optimize ...